Return-Path: X-Original-To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org Received: from mail-qg0-f47.google.com (mail-qg0-f47.google.com [209.85.192.47]) by diego.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC769486E1 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:00:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-qg0-f47.google.com with SMTP id e32so426617367qgf.3 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:00:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=QsWvvbwoTVTWx3aGO19fRQ6FuaaDY17A//RFpPn7h4g=; b=q5b6poYeJj48w0Cmqp8TUIl8v6A9mCtn/YPrjR+8vnDqiz8KIaMIVhWdqrk7A2YEml mfBPgmIZ7w90eCMyh9zvNhueddMX9qjKH4dk55dk+Yr6SnGPyt3ykTgXVBbfqe+X6Vw0 sKyEJy8lR2ERCU0GfnQo26IfIEvuBwYYfyqUzu+DQJbUm2e12kndF5R3q2XCUSWrs+Uh +pn3JPGMq7RRJWd/IrrXFVfqJ5uTRWSZK2/uylO5bGRt3ogCzr92Mc9i6mrpjLwvUGHF c3DNVS/tEQ6rV3MMeSRUKAyhW4LNdlUwx/EAN3lcHx+wbpXfakeZz9aYSdfhE7uDXoRm A90w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=QsWvvbwoTVTWx3aGO19fRQ6FuaaDY17A//RFpPn7h4g=; b=AZWH1BKQ0DbPfMtrGMmzGf+JhOEt3eT45tLOHQPQYWYOgkuvWLMy7cQX4fytHVDwah sOsXkMq2lLOhSxO/pYPbsnlTFLUt+h/Zwq/uMy859+AMDnZPzs9UMEe0FxmB3+cDQ7LH PPnWNQdYK3iW+RjvttTG7kQo2ph4kUu7yP/htSFnICdLbMIC+FyHXNeW27DHM+z4rxDm UkHi1hC62evAq1irdrogrmTSA2SO8SdIaY31fw1ksFigzcvzg0ugvtokqcYBF1kZJAjh 9tI3bRb0IhX0EzUBScCki+g+TFs5+6e4RxL8uo0gIfpfevlmBu4IZ5EMP/lm+rcXfykC ZLWA== X-Gm-Message-State: =?utf-8?q?ALoCoQk2YhlkTQhgfSxNDx+6O4tKiIq0KAvpQlH5vsyJy?= =?utf-8?q?Oy5PvhqqEiw4cqQoWbHosBmXQwvUOu9pUgSBLZEg9OII1cLYLwv2Q=3D=3D?= X-Received: by 10.140.94.198 with SMTP id g64mr15749348qge.57.1452884414148; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 11:00:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.55.49.20 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Jan 2016 10:59:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1452883920715.40605@ufl.edu> References: <1452883920715.40605@ufl.edu> From: jenna freedman Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 13:59:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts To: "O'Dell, Allison Jai" Cc: Netanel Ganin , "zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a7bc667ba7c0529640329 --001a113a7bc667ba7c0529640329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gotcha--or rather didn't getcha! Do folks want to build out the zinelibraries.info page /site/wiki ? I'm already paying for that domain, and Violet is doing a lot of the web admin stuff, so it's at our disposal. But maybe people would feel more freedom/ownership over a new site (hosted or free)? Anyone who wants an account on zinelibraries.info, let Violet or me know. Happy also to give people admin privileges. We've had to lock it down a bit because of spam. Jenna On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:52 PM, O'Dell, Allison Jai wrote: > Thanks, Jenna!=E2=80=8B > > > Allow me to rephrase my call for a public something: In addition to an > organized workspace (which I suppose we have!), I'm also thinking > that perhaps we need a public-facing landing page that introduces the > project, with links to GitHub, Etherpad, unconference notes, > etc. Something friendly that explains the project, where we're at, etc. > And I'm also thinking, is it time for our own domain? > > > > -A > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Zlunioncat on behalf of jenna > freedman > *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2016 1:38 PM > *To:* Netanel Ganin > *Cc:* zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts > > I'm not sure if folks know or are remembering that we *have* a public > workspace: https://github.com/MiloQZAP/xZINECOREx > > The transformation work Christina Harlow did is probably on the Etherpad > somewhere (or I can > find it or ask for her help), so I'd say the first step isn't generating > documentation, but mining the Etherpad for it, organizing it, and posting > it to Github. I suggest that newer folks spend some quality time there. > > I think we have a call on Tuesday, so we can figure out next steps and > prioritize them. > > And yes, Violet, I added Jacob (the one new person I know about) to this > list and the calendar invite. Are there people I don't know about? > > Jenna > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Netanel Ganin wrote= : > >> Thanks to Violet for the gentle braking. I do have a tendency to rip-roa= r >> in a post-exciting thing like a conference. So I'll return myself to a l= ow >> simmer. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Violet wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, and welcome to Jacob! I had a lot of fun during our >>> session, thanks to everyone for pulling together to make it happen. >>> >>> In the spirit of documentation, can people send out any notes they have >>> from the session? Or add them to the Etherpad >>> ? (Rhonda, you did >>> such a great job of note-taking/reporting back, can you share your note= s? >>> Even if they're messy, that's fine.) Before we go rip-roaring into the >>> "FUCK YEAH LET'S DO THIS" phase, I just want to make sure we write down= all >>> the ideas that we got from the session for future reference. >>> >>> Were there other folks who said they'd be interested? Are people >>> planning on following up with them with a gentle email reminder of wher= e >>> they can sign up for the mailing list? (Honor or Billey, would you be a= ble >>> to contact Andrew Clark, the metadata librarian at Simmons? He said he'= d be >>> interested in participating, I believe.) >>> >>> Jenna, as we get new people added on let's make sure they know about/ar= e >>> invited to the conference call. >>> >>> I'd also like to do a report back to the Zine Librarians yahoo email >>> list to let people know how it went and where we're headed. >>> >>> Milo, I'd like to help with the timeline. On my to-do-list: consolidate >>> all the info from the various Unconference wikis that has to do with th= e >>> union catalog. >>> >>> Whoooooo!!! >>> Violet >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 9:46 AM, >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Send Zlunioncat mailing list submissions to >>>> zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> >>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>>> zlunioncat-request@lists.qzap.org >>>> >>>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>>> zlunioncat-owner@lists.qzap.org >>>> >>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>>> than "Re: Contents of Zlunioncat digest..." >>>> >>>> >>>> Today's Topics: >>>> >>>> 1. Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (Netanel Ganin) >>>> 2. Re: Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (O'Dell, Allison Jai) >>>> 3. Re: Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (Milo) >>>> 4. Re: Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (Shelby, Jacob T [LIB]) >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Message: 1 >>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:46:05 -0500 >>>> From: Netanel Ganin >>>> To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> Subject: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> Message-ID: >>>> >>> 5Ma1K9vme_ULxD6b6_0NtK1Bw@mail.gmail.com> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8" >>>> >>>> Hey y'all >>>> >>>> so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands dir= ty >>>> doing something, and while listening and thinking here's what I think = I >>>> can >>>> do (right now) >>>> >>>> 1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by th= e >>>> zinesters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos probably) >>>> >>>> 2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD >>>> >>>> To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will accept >>>> input >>>> as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could write 4 >>>> separate >>>> ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be useful too. >>>> >>>> How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could >>>> *find* zines >>>> in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful. >>>> >>>> Excited to get into the water! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Netanel Ganin >>>> >>>> Pronouns: he/his/him >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/private.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org/attachments/2016= 0115/1898897b/attachment-0001.htm >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 2 >>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:05:46 +0000 >>>> From: "O'Dell, Allison Jai" >>>> To: Netanel Ganin , "zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org" >>>> >>>> Cc: "e.williams10@umiami.edu" >>>> Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> Message-ID: <1452870345422.47028@ufl.edu> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> I walked away with an action of "MOAR DOCUMENTATION." All agree? >>>> >>>> >>>> To that end, I can commit to documenting zine libraries and their >>>> metadata formats (I have notes on this... I'll put it into a table.) >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, we'll need to document use cases. >>>> >>>> >>>> We've been using etherpad, but should we get together a better (public= ) >>>> online presence / more organized working space? >>>> >>>> >>>> And regarding Netanel's #1 below, my former colleagues at Miami (Steve >>>> Hersh, Elliot Williams, and I) skosified our local zine subject headin= gs, >>>> and linked them to LCSH (and maybe the AA vocab, can't remember). Ell= iot, >>>> copied, should still have access to the data (Steve and I have since m= oved >>>> on). >>>> >>>> >>>> So, hi Elliot! Want to work with Netanel on making something of that >>>> project? (And if the answer is "nah dawg, I'm busy," maybe you could = send >>>> us a copy of the MySQL table that contains said data?) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Reinvigorated! >>>> >>>> Allison >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Zlunioncat on behalf of >>>> Netanel Ganin >>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:46 AM >>>> To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> Subject: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> >>>> Hey y'all >>>> >>>> so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands >>>> dirty doing something, and while listening and thinking here's what I = think >>>> I can do (right now) >>>> >>>> 1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by th= e >>>> zinesters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos probably) >>>> >>>> 2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD >>>> >>>> To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will accept >>>> input as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could write= 4 >>>> separate ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be useful t= oo. >>>> >>>> How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could find >>>> zines in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful. >>>> >>>> Excited to get into the water! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Netanel Ganin >>>> >>>> Pronouns: he/his/him >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/private.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org/attachments/2016= 0115/257ce411/attachment-0001.htm >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 3 >>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:25:03 -0600 >>>> From: Milo >>>> To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> Message-ID: <56990F4F.5090608@qzap.org> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252"; Format=3D"flowed" >>>> >>>> >>>> I am in agreement with the MOAR DOCUMENTATION aspect. I would be >>>> willing, with some help, to put together a timeline of what has been >>>> done when and post it to http://zinelibraries.info/zine-union-catalog/ >>>> . I'd want to include stuff like the surveys that have happened re: >>>> zinelibs and zinesters' feels about contributing to a union catalog, >>>> etc. >>>> >>>> Or maybe an FAQ? >>>> >>>> >>>> Milo Miller >>>> Co-Founder >>>> the Queer Zine Archive Project >>>> http://www.qzap.org >>>> milo@qzap.org >>>> >>>> On 1/15/16 9:05 AM, O'Dell, Allison Jai wrote: >>>> > >>>> > I walked away with an action of "MOAR DOCUMENTATION." All agree? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > To that end, I can commit to documenting zine libraries and their >>>> > metadata formats (I have notes on this... I'll put it into a table.= ) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Also, we'll need to document use cases. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > We've been using etherpad, but should we get together a better >>>> > (public) online presence / more organized working space? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > And regarding Netanel's #1 below, my former colleagues at Miami (Ste= ve >>>> > Hersh, Elliot Williams, and I) skosified our local zine subject >>>> > headings, and linked them to LCSH (and maybe the AA vocab, can't >>>> > remember). Elliot, copied, should still have access to the data >>>> > (Steve and I have since moved on). >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > So, hi Elliot! Want to work with Netanel on making something of tha= t >>>> > project? (And if the answer is "nah dawg, I'm busy," maybe you coul= d >>>> > send us a copy of the MySQL table that contains said data?) >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Reinvigorated! >>>> > >>>> > Allison >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >>>> > *From:* Zlunioncat on behalf of >>>> > Netanel Ganin >>>> > *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2016 9:46 AM >>>> > *To:* zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> > *Subject:* [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> > Hey y'all >>>> > >>>> > so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands >>>> > dirty doing something, and while listening and thinking here's what = I >>>> > think I can do (right now) >>>> > >>>> > 1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by >>>> > the zinesters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos >>>> probably) >>>> > >>>> > 2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD >>>> > >>>> > To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will accep= t >>>> > input as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could wri= te >>>> > 4 separate ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be usef= ul >>>> > too. >>>> > >>>> > How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could >>>> > /find/ zines in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful. >>>> > >>>> > Excited to get into the water! >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Best, >>>> > >>>> > Netanel Ganin >>>> > >>>> > Pronouns: he/his/him >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Zlunioncat mailing list >>>> > Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> > http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/private.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org/attachments/2016= 0115/49fd55f0/attachment-0001.htm >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Message: 4 >>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:45:39 +0000 >>>> From: "Shelby, Jacob T [LIB]" >>>> To: "zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org" >>>> Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> Message-ID: >>>> < >>>> BN3PR0401MB1590569025F6510B8021A492C8CD0@BN3PR0401MB1590.namprd04.prod= .outlook.com >>>> > >>>> >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi everyone. Thank you for having me. I know I'm new to the group, but >>>> I'd like to jump into the deep end with everybody else! I guess I shou= ld >>>> introduce myself first, for those who weren't at Mashcat. I'm a Metada= ta >>>> and Cataloging Librarian at Iowa State University. I mostly deal with >>>> metadata with regards to digital initiatives and archives/special >>>> collections. >>>> >>>> I agree with Allison. Documentation is fantastic. Do we happen to have >>>> scope documentation for this project? E.g. What the purpose of the pro= ject >>>> is, What will be included/what won't, Goals of the project, Use cases,= etc. >>>> If we do, could anybody point me to it so I can begin immersing myself= into >>>> the project? [😊] >>>> >>>> I'm excited about this, and am looking forward to working with everyon= e! >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Jacob Shelby >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Zlunioncat on behalf of Milo >>>> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:25 AM >>>> To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> >>>> I am in agreement with the MOAR DOCUMENTATION aspect. I would be >>>> willing, with some help, to put together a timeline of what has been d= one >>>> when and post it to http://zinelibraries.info/zine-union-catalog/ . >>>> I'd want to include stuff like the surveys that have happened re: zine= libs >>>> and zinesters' feels about contributing to a union catalog, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> Or maybe an FAQ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Milo Miller >>>> Co-Founder >>>> the Queer Zine Archive Project >>>> http://www.qzap.org >>>> milo@qzap.org >>>> >>>> On 1/15/16 9:05 AM, O'Dell, Allison Jai wrote: >>>> >>>> I walked away with an action of "MOAR DOCUMENTATION." All agree? >>>> >>>> >>>> To that end, I can commit to documenting zine libraries and their >>>> metadata formats (I have notes on this... I'll put it into a table.) >>>> >>>> >>>> Also, we'll need to document use cases. >>>> >>>> >>>> We've been using etherpad, but should we get together a better (public= ) >>>> online presence / more organized working space? >>>> >>>> >>>> And regarding Netanel's #1 below, my former colleagues at Miami (Steve >>>> Hersh, Elliot Williams, and I) skosified our local zine subject headin= gs, >>>> and linked them to LCSH (and maybe the AA vocab, can't remember). Ell= iot, >>>> copied, should still have access to the data (Steve and I have since m= oved >>>> on). >>>> >>>> >>>> So, hi Elliot! Want to work with Netanel on making something of that >>>> project? (And if the answer is "nah dawg, I'm busy," maybe you could = send >>>> us a copy of the MySQL table that contains said data?) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Reinvigorated! >>>> >>>> Allison >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Zlunioncat >>> zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org> on behalf of Netanel Ganin < >>>> netganin@gmail.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:46 AM >>>> To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> Subject: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts >>>> >>>> Hey y'all >>>> >>>> so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands >>>> dirty doing something, and while listening and thinking here's what I = think >>>> I can do (right now) >>>> >>>> 1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by th= e >>>> zinesters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos probably) >>>> >>>> 2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD >>>> >>>> To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will accept >>>> input as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could write= 4 >>>> separate ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be useful t= oo. >>>> >>>> How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could find >>>> zines in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful. >>>> >>>> Excited to get into the water! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Netanel Ganin >>>> >>>> Pronouns: he/his/him >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Zlunioncat mailing list >>>> Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/private.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org/attachments/2016= 0115/8e4aea91/attachment.htm >>>> > >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>>> Name: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png >>>> Type: image/png >>>> Size: 488 bytes >>>> Desc: OutlookEmoji-&#X1f60a.png >>>> URL: < >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/private.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org/attachments/2016= 0115/8e4aea91/attachment.png >>>> > >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Subject: Digest Footer >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Zlunioncat mailing list >>>> Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>>> http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> End of Zlunioncat Digest, Vol 14, Issue 12 >>>> ****************************************** >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Zlunioncat mailing list >>> Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >>> http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Best, >> >> Netanel Ganin >> >> Pronouns: he/his/him >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zlunioncat mailing list >> Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >> http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >> >> > > > -- > http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info > http://zines.barnard.edu > http://leslzine.storenvy.com > she, her, hers > --=20 http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info http://zines.barnard.edu http://leslzine.storenvy.com she, her, hers --001a113a7bc667ba7c0529640329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gotcha--or rather didn't getcha!

Do= folks want to build out the zinelibraries.info page/site/wiki? I'm already paying for= that domain, and Violet is doing a lot of the web admin stuff, so it's= at our disposal. But maybe people would feel more freedom/ownership over a= new site (hosted or free)?

Anyone who wants an ac= count on zinelibraries.info, let = Violet or me know. Happy also to give people admin privileges. We've ha= d to lock it down a bit because of spam.=C2=A0

Jen= na


On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:52 PM, O'Dell, Allison Jai <ajodel= l@ufl.edu> wrote:

Thanks, Jenna!=E2=80=8B


Allow me to rephrase my call for a public something: =C2=A0In addition t= o an organized workspace (which I suppose we have!), I'm also thinking = that=C2=A0perhaps we need a public-facing=C2=A0landing page that introduces= the project, with links to GitHub, Etherpad, unconference notes, etc.=C2=A0=C2=A0Something friendly that explains=C2=A0the project, = where we're at, etc.=C2=A0 And I'm also thinking, is it time for ou= r own domain?



-A


From: Zlunioncat <zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.o= rg> on behalf of jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 1:38 PM
To: Netanel Ganin
Cc: z= lunioncat@lists.qzap.org

Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts
=C2=A0
I'm not sure if folks know or are remembering that we = *have* a public workspace: https:= //github.com/MiloQZAP/xZINECOREx

The transformation work Christina Harlow did is probably on the Etherpad somewhere (or I can find it or ask for her help), so I'd s= ay the first step isn't generating documentation, but mining the Etherp= ad for it, organizing it, and posting it to Github. I suggest that newer fo= lks spend some quality time there.=C2=A0

I think we have a call on Tuesday, so we can figure out next steps and= prioritize them.=C2=A0

And yes, Violet, I added Jacob (the one new person I know about) to th= is list and the calendar invite. Are there people I don't know about?

Jenna

On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Netanel Ganin <= span dir=3D"ltr"> <netganin@gmail.= com> wrote:
Thanks to Violet for the gentle braking. I do have a tende= ncy to rip-roar in a post-exciting thing like a conference. So I'll ret= urn myself to a low simmer.



On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Violet <violetfox@gmai= l.com> wrote:
Hi everyone, and welcome to Jacob! I had a lot of fun duri= ng our session, thanks to everyone for pulling together to make it happen.= =C2=A0

In the spirit of documentation, can people send out any notes they hav= e from the session? Or add them to the Etherpad? (Rhonda, you did such a great job of note-taking/re= porting back, can you share your notes? Even if they're messy, that'= ;s fine.) Before we go rip-roaring into the "FUCK YEAH LET'S DO THIS" phase, I just want to make sure we= write down all the ideas that we got from the session for future reference= .=C2=A0

Were there other folks who said they'd be interested? Are people p= lanning on following up with them with a gentle email reminder of where the= y can sign up for the mailing list? (Honor or Billey, would you be able to = contact Andrew Clark, the metadata librarian at Simmons? He said he'd be interested in participating, I believe.)= =C2=A0

Jenna, as we get new people added on let's make sure they know abo= ut/are invited to the conference call.

I'd also like to do a report back to the Zine Librarians yahoo ema= il list to let people know how it went and where we're headed.=C2=A0

Milo, I'd like to help with the timeline. On my to-do-list: consol= idate all the info from the various Unconference wikis that has to do with = the union catalog.

Whoooooo!!!
Violet


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Today's Topics:

=C2=A0 =C2=A01. Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (Netanel Ganin)
=C2=A0 =C2=A02. Re: Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (O'Dell, Allison Jai) =C2=A0 =C2=A03. Re: Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (Milo)
=C2=A0 =C2=A04. Re: Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts (Shelby, Jacob T [LIB])


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:46:05 -0500
From: Netanel Ganin <netganin@gmail.com>
To: zlunionc= at@lists.qzap.org
Subject: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts
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Hey y'all

so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands dirt= y
doing something, and while listening and thinking here's what I think I= can
do (right now)

1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by the
zinesters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos probably)

2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD

To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will acce= pt input
as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could write 4 separate=
ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be useful too.

How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could *f= ind* zines
in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful.

Excited to get into the water!

--
Best,

Netanel Ganin

Pronouns: he/his/him
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:05:46 +0000
From: "O'Dell, Allison Jai" <ajodell@ufl.edu>
To: Netanel Ganin <netganin@gmail.com>, "zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org"
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 <zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org>
Cc: "e.wi= lliams10@umiami.edu" <e.williams10@umiami.edu>
Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts
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I walked away with an action of "MOAR DOCUMENTATION."=C2=A0 All a= gree?


To that end, I can commit to documenting zine libraries and their metadata = formats (I have notes on this...=C2=A0 I'll put it into a table.)


Also, we'll need to document use cases.


We've been using etherpad, but should we get together a better (public)= online presence / more organized working space?


And regarding Netanel's #1 below, my former colleagues at Miami (Steve = Hersh, Elliot Williams, and I) skosified our local zine subject headings, a= nd linked them to LCSH (and maybe the AA vocab, can't remember).=C2=A0 = Elliot, copied, should still have access to the data (Steve and I have since moved on).


So, hi Elliot!=C2=A0 Want to work with Netanel on making something of that = project?=C2=A0 (And if the answer is "nah dawg, I'm busy," ma= ybe you could send us a copy of the MySQL table that contains said data?)


Reinvigorated!

Allison



________________________________
From: Zlunioncat <zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org> on behalf of Net= anel Ganin <netg= anin@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:46 AM
To: zlunionc= at@lists.qzap.org
Subject: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts

Hey y'all

so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands dirt= y doing something, and while listening and thinking here's what I think= I can do (right now)

1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by the zin= esters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos probably)

2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD

To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will acce= pt input as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could write 4= separate ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be useful t= oo.

How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could find zine= s in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful.

Excited to get into the water!

--
Best,

Netanel Ganin

Pronouns: he/his/him

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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 09:25:03 -0600
From: Milo <milo@qzap= .org>
To: zlunionc= at@lists.qzap.org
Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts
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I am in agreement with the MOAR DOCUMENTATION aspect.=C2=A0 I would be
willing, with some help, to put together a timeline of what has been
done when and post it to http://zinelibraries.info/zine-union-catalog/
.=C2=A0 I'd want to include stuff like the surveys that have happened r= e:
zinelibs and zinesters' feels about contributing to a union catalog, et= c.

Or maybe an FAQ?


Milo Miller
Co-Founder
the Queer Zine Archive Project
http:/= /www.qzap.org
milo@qzap.org

On 1/15/16 9:05 AM, O'Dell, Allison Jai wrote:
>
> I walked away with an action of "MOAR DOCUMENTATION."=C2=A0 = All agree?
>
>
> To that end, I can commit to documenting zine libraries and their
> metadata formats (I have notes on this...=C2=A0 I'll put it into a= table.)
>
>
> Also, we'll need to document use cases.
>
>
> We've been using etherpad, but should we get together a better
> (public) online presence / more organized working space?
>
>
> And regarding Netanel's #1 below, my former colleagues at Miami (S= teve
> Hersh, Elliot Williams, and I) skosified our local zine subject
> headings, and linked them to LCSH (and maybe the AA vocab, can't > remember).=C2=A0 Elliot, copied, should still have access to the data<= br> > (Steve and I have since moved on).
>
>
> So, hi Elliot!=C2=A0 Want to work with Netanel on making something of = that
> project?=C2=A0 (And if the answer is "nah dawg, I'm busy,&quo= t; maybe you could
> send us a copy of the MySQL table that contains said data?)
>
>
>
> Reinvigorated!
>
> Allison
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= --
> *From:* Zlunioncat <zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org> on behalf= of
> Netanel Ganin <netganin@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2016 9:46 AM
> *To:* z= lunioncat@lists.qzap.org
> *Subject:* [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts
> Hey y'all
>
> so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands=
> dirty doing something, and while listening and thinking here's wha= t I
> think I can do (right now)
>
> 1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by > the zinesters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos probably= )
>
> 2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD
>
> To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will= accept
> input as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could write=
> 4 separate ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be us= eful
> too.
>
> How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could
> /find/ zines in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful.<= span>
>
> Excited to get into the water!
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Netanel Ganin
>
> Pronouns: he/his/him
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2016 15:45:39 +0000
From: "Shelby, Jacob T [LIB]" <jtshelby@iastate.edu>
To: "zl= unioncat@lists.qzap.org" <zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org>
Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts
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Hi everyone. Thank you for having me. I know I'm new to the group, but = I'd like to jump into the deep end with everybody else! I guess I shoul= d introduce myself first, for those who weren't at Mashcat. I'm a M= etadata and Cataloging Librarian at Iowa State University. I mostly deal with metadata with regards to digital initiatives and archiv= es/special collections.

I agree with Allison. Documentation is fantastic. Do we happen to ha= ve scope documentation for this project? E.g. What the purpose of the proje= ct is, What will be included/what won't, Goals of the project, Use case= s, etc. If we do, could anybody point me to it so I can begin immersing myself into the project?=C2=A0 [&#X1= f60a]

I'm excited about this, and am looking forward to working with everyone= !

Best,
Jacob Shelby

________________________________
From: Zlunioncat <zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org> on behalf of Mil= o <milo@qzap.org&= gt;
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:25 AM
To: zlunionc= at@lists.qzap.org
Subject: Re: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts

I am in agreement with the MOAR DOCUMENTATION aspect.=C2=A0 I would be will= ing, with some help, to put together a timeline of what has been done when = and post it to http://zinelibraries.info/zine-union-catalog/ .=C2=A0 I'd want to i= nclude stuff like the surveys that have happened re: zinelibs and zinesters= ' feels about contributing to a union catalog, etc.


Or maybe an FAQ?



Milo Miller
Co-Founder
the Queer Zine Archive Project
http:/= /www.qzap.org
milo@qzap.org= <mailto:milo@qzap.org= >

On 1/15/16 9:05 AM, O'Dell, Allison Jai wrote:

I walked away with an action of "MOAR DOCUMENTATION."=C2=A0 All a= gree?


To that end, I can commit to documenting zine libraries and their metadata = formats (I have notes on this...=C2=A0 I'll put it into a table.)


Also, we'll need to document use cases.


We've been using etherpad, but should we get together a better (public)= online presence / more organized working space?


And regarding Netanel's #1 below, my former colleagues at Miami (Steve = Hersh, Elliot Williams, and I) skosified our local zine subject headings, a= nd linked them to LCSH (and maybe the AA vocab, can't remember).=C2=A0 = Elliot, copied, should still have access to the data (Steve and I have since moved on).


So, hi Elliot!=C2=A0 Want to work with Netanel on making something of that = project?=C2=A0 (And if the answer is "nah dawg, I'm busy," ma= ybe you could send us a copy of the MySQL table that contains said data?)


Reinvigorated!

Allison



________________________________
From: Zlunioncat <zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org><mailto= :zlu= nioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org> on behalf of Netanel Ganin <= netganin@gmail.com><mailto:netganin@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 9:46 AM
To: z= lunioncat@lists.qzap.org<mailto:zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org>
Subject: [Zlunioncat] Post Mashies/ALAMW Thoughts

Hey y'all

so after all that bizbaz here's where I am: I want to get my hands dirt= y doing something, and while listening and thinking here's what I think= I can do (right now)

1. Combine the Anchor Archive terms and the LCSH (in current use by the zin= esters) into one controlled list in an RDF vocab (skos probably)

2. Map the xXZineCoreXx to MODS/MARCXML/DC/EAD

To be sure I'm clear, I mean I'd be writing an XSLT which will acce= pt input as any of the latter and convert it to the former. I could write 4= separate ones that go the other way, if folks think that'd be useful t= oo.

How does that sound? I may need some pointers as to where I could find zine= s in those 4 formats, as examples are very helpful.

Excited to get into the water!

--
Best,

Netanel Ganin

Pronouns: he/his/him




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