Chuck0 (infoshop.org founder) and I were brainstorming alternatives to "authority control" to get zine makers to make us not have to work so hard to find basic cataloging info and came up with the phrase "mutual metadata." Just thought I'd share because I know Milo at least will get a kick out of it. Chuck was also asking about DOIs for digitized zines based on a question he got re: doing something useful with zinelibrary.info content. I figured we'd have to talk about that at some point, though probably not yet? Maybe Jennifer Hecker has something to say about DOIs and zines? Jenna PS Chuck will probably join this list so hi, Chuck! -- http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info http://zines.barnard.edu http://leslzine.storenvy.com she, her, hers _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org

I totally love the phrase Mutual Metadata! Also, what's a DOI? I'm not familiar with the TLA. ;) xoM -- Milo Miller Co-Founder the Queer Zine Archive Project http://www.qzap.org milo@qzap.org On 9/6/15 1:41 PM, jenna freedman wrote: > Chuck0 (infoshop.org <http://infoshop.org> founder) and I were > brainstorming alternatives to "authority control" to get zine makers > to make us not have to work so hard to find basic cataloging info and > came up with the phrase "mutual metadata." Just thought I'd share > because I know Milo at least will get a kick out of it. > > Chuck was also asking about DOIs for digitized zines based on a > question he got re: doing something useful with zinelibrary.info > <http://zinelibrary.info> content. I figured we'd have to talk about > that at some point, though probably not yet? Maybe Jennifer Hecker has > something to say about DOIs and zines? > > Jenna > > PS Chuck will probably join this list so hi, Chuck! > > -- > http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info > http://zines.barnard.edu > http://leslzine.storenvy.com > she, her, hers > > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing list > Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org

Digital Object Identifier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_object_identifier On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Milo <milo@qzap.org> wrote: > I totally love the phrase Mutual Metadata! Also, what's a DOI? I'm not > familiar with the TLA. ;) > > xoM > > -- > Milo Miller > Co-Founder > the Queer Zine Archive Projecthttp://www.qzap.orgmilo@qzap.org > > On 9/6/15 1:41 PM, jenna freedman wrote: > > Chuck0 (infoshop.org founder) and I were brainstorming alternatives to > "authority control" to get zine makers to make us not have to work so hard > to find basic cataloging info and came up with the phrase "mutual > metadata." Just thought I'd share because I know Milo at least will get a > kick out of it. > > Chuck was also asking about DOIs for digitized zines based on a question > he got re: doing something useful with zinelibrary.info content. I > figured we'd have to talk about that at some point, though probably not > yet? Maybe Jennifer Hecker has something to say about DOIs and zines? > > Jenna > > PS Chuck will probably join this list so hi, Chuck! > > -- > http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info > http://zines.barnard.edu > http://leslzine.storenvy.com > she, her, hers > > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing listZlunioncat@lists.qzap.orghttp://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing list > Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org > > _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org

DOI = Digital Object Identifier. http://www.doi.org/ We need some sort of unique identifiers (for titles and/or issues) to enable most of the desired ZLUC functionality. DOIs make sense for everything that's been scanned -- but what to do about zines that haven't been digitized? In "regular" libraries (can we call them Shod Libraries?) the OCLC number tends to do the trick. We need to have a URI convo. Jenna, can you explain more about the "mutual metadata" idea? Do you mean to have zinesters write up 'authority' resources about themselves, and all of their name variants and zines and stuff? Or to have zinesters and zine librarians catalog their zines? Or both? Getting back to the URI discussion, I wonder if we might compel Zinesters of the World to register ISNIs (achieving name authority control for the ZLUC). http://www.isni.org/ Allison P.S., I have some Big Ideas on Architecture. Next meeting? On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Milo <milo@qzap.org> wrote: > I totally love the phrase Mutual Metadata! Also, what's a DOI? I'm not > familiar with the TLA. ;) > > xoM > > -- > Milo Miller > Co-Founder > the Queer Zine Archive Projecthttp://www.qzap.orgmilo@qzap.org > > On 9/6/15 1:41 PM, jenna freedman wrote: > > Chuck0 (infoshop.org founder) and I were brainstorming alternatives to > "authority control" to get zine makers to make us not have to work so hard > to find basic cataloging info and came up with the phrase "mutual > metadata." Just thought I'd share because I know Milo at least will get a > kick out of it. > > Chuck was also asking about DOIs for digitized zines based on a question > he got re: doing something useful with zinelibrary.info content. I > figured we'd have to talk about that at some point, though probably not > yet? Maybe Jennifer Hecker has something to say about DOIs and zines? > > Jenna > > PS Chuck will probably join this list so hi, Chuck! > > -- > http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info > http://zines.barnard.edu > http://leslzine.storenvy.com > she, her, hers > > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing listZlunioncat@lists.qzap.orghttp://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing list > Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org > >

To me "mutual metadata" is mostly a way of not saying "authority control" to anti-authoritarians. :) As you suggest, it also implies trusting a person as an authority on their own identity. All for Big Ideas on Architecture talk at our next meeting, and ISNIfication. I'm excited to see discussion happening on this list between meetings, too! Jenna On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Allison Jai O'Dell <ajodell@gmail.com> wrote: > DOI = Digital Object Identifier. http://www.doi.org/ > > We need some sort of unique identifiers (for titles and/or issues) to > enable most of the desired ZLUC functionality. DOIs make sense for > everything that's been scanned -- but what to do about zines that haven't > been digitized? In "regular" libraries (can we call them Shod Libraries?) > the OCLC number tends to do the trick. We need to have a URI convo. > > Jenna, can you explain more about the "mutual metadata" idea? Do you mean > to have zinesters write up 'authority' resources about themselves, and all > of their name variants and zines and stuff? Or to have zinesters and zine > librarians catalog their zines? Or both? > Getting back to the URI discussion, I wonder if we might compel Zinesters > of the World to register ISNIs (achieving name authority control for the > ZLUC). http://www.isni.org/ > > > Allison > > P.S., I have some Big Ideas on Architecture. Next meeting? > > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Milo <milo@qzap.org> wrote: > >> I totally love the phrase Mutual Metadata! Also, what's a DOI? I'm not >> familiar with the TLA. ;) >> >> xoM >> >> -- >> Milo Miller >> Co-Founder >> the Queer Zine Archive Projecthttp://www.qzap.orgmilo@qzap.org >> >> On 9/6/15 1:41 PM, jenna freedman wrote: >> >> Chuck0 (infoshop.org founder) and I were brainstorming alternatives to >> "authority control" to get zine makers to make us not have to work so hard >> to find basic cataloging info and came up with the phrase "mutual >> metadata." Just thought I'd share because I know Milo at least will get a >> kick out of it. >> >> Chuck was also asking about DOIs for digitized zines based on a question >> he got re: doing something useful with zinelibrary.info content. I >> figured we'd have to talk about that at some point, though probably not >> yet? Maybe Jennifer Hecker has something to say about DOIs and zines? >> >> Jenna >> >> PS Chuck will probably join this list so hi, Chuck! >> >> -- >> http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info >> http://zines.barnard.edu >> http://leslzine.storenvy.com >> she, her, hers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zlunioncat mailing listZlunioncat@lists.qzap.orghttp://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Zlunioncat mailing list >> Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >> http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing list > Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org > > -- http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info http://zines.barnard.edu http://leslzine.storenvy.com she, her, hers _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org