If the person who made it calls it a zine, then i would consider it a zine Sent using mobile technology and composed with thumbs On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 5:18 PM Lisa Gardinier <lbgardinier@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed with Julie and Deborah. Zine-adjacent, but definitely books. > > The University of Wisconsin has the largest collection, mostly in their > special collections: > https://researchguides.library.wisc.edu/cartoneras/cartonerasUW Scroll > down and you'll see a link for *Akademia Cartonera*, an edited volume > (open access) about the format. > > At Iowa, we split ours between Special Collections (if it's not yet in > another library's special collections or if the author has an affiliation > to our university) and circulating Stacks. The circulating cartonera are > protected by a mylar cover, but otherwise no other intervention. The > University of Wisconsin has the largest collection, mostly in their special > collections: > https://search.lib.uiowa.edu/primo-explore/search?query=any,contains,cartonera&tab=default_tab&search_scope=library_catalogs&vid=01IOWA&offset=0 > > Lisa > -- > Lisa Gardinier > lbgardinier@gmail.com > > work: > Curator, International Literature > University of Iowa Libraries > lisa-gardinier@uiowa.edu > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 3:45 PM Barbara Brownell (SAPL) < > Barbara.Brownell@sanantonio.gov> wrote: > >> Thanks, Julie. I’ll check it out >> >> >> >> Barbara Brownell >> >> >> >> *From:* Grob, Julie <jgrob@uh.edu> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:37 PM >> *To:* Barbara Brownell (SAPL) <Barbara.Brownell@sanantonio.gov>; >> zinelibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: Is this a zine? >> >> >> >> Hi Barbara, >> >> >> >> We think of a cartonera as fitting under the format of “artist’s book” >> here at UH. You might look for some guidance on cataloging artists’ books. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Julie >> >> >> >> [image: University of Houston logo] >> >> Julie Grob (she/her) >> Coordinator for Instruction, Special Collections | Curator for Houston >> Hip Hop Research Collection >> Curator for Rare Books Collections >> UH Libraries >> University of Houston >> Office (713) 743-9744 >> jgrob@uh.edu >> https://uh.edu >> >> >> >> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information in this email may be confidential >> and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, then any review, >> dissemination, or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, or the >> information contained herein is prohibited. If you have received this email >> in error, then please immediately notify the sender by return email and >> delete this email from your devices. >> >> >> >> *Know someone in UH Libraries that deserves some **Kudos? Share kudos* >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/uhlibrary.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3aE0rjOys70VFtk__;!!LkSTlj0I!CjkWXcDFhumW70hU7MXxb81wCQmgzbMNC0_mNpWHctzXTLM1RKhQoQS4boeKVF5A7WdY-W_IqZAGUKV8M4EgMXw$>* >> to help us celebrate their great work!* >> >> >> >> *From:* ZineLibrarians <zinelibrarians-bounces@lists.zinelibraries.info> *On >> Behalf Of *Barbara Brownell (SAPL) >> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:31 PM >> *To:* zinelibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >> *Subject:* [Zine Librarians] Is this a zine? >> >> >> >> >> >> Good afternoon, >> >> >> >> I have on my desk to catalog, a Cartonera—basically a zine or short >> booklet bound in a cardboard cover. Would I catalog it as a zine? The >> person who donated it calls it a zine. I’ve never seen one, though it’s a >> popular publishing movement in many countries. >> >> >> >> I have no problem with describing it as a zine, but I want to ask the >> “collective wisdom”, as I don’t do many zines. BTW, we will be getting >> more of them. >> >> >> >> Thanks and muchas gracias. >> >> >> >> >> >> Barbara Brownell >> >> Catalog Librarian >> >> City of San Antonio, San Antonio Public Library >> >> 210-207-2524 >> >> >> >> ***THIS EMAIL IS FROM AN EXTERNAL SENDER OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.*** >> >> Be cautious before clicking links or opening attachments from unknown >> sources. Do not provide personal or confidential information. >> _______________________________________________ >> ZineLibrarians mailing list >> ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >> >> http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info >> > _______________________________________________ > ZineLibrarians mailing list > ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info > > http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info > _______________________________________________ ZineLibrarians mailing list ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info

"If the person who made it calls it a zine, then i would consider it a zine" This and its flipside: Cartonera publishers and authors do *not* consider them to be zines. Most are absolutely aware of zines (might even make some!) and intentionally choose to create them as books. Artist books in the North American and European sense are also adjacent but not a totally accurate description, I would argue artesanal books. Artist books are often the closest reference for US catalogers, totally understandable, and there are similarities. The breadth of artesanal publishing in Latin America, including but well beyond zines and cartoneras, is pretty amazing -- it's accessible, in price as much as who creates it and how. Do you have a squirrelly idea for a book and what a book should look like? Do you have $10 to spend on something fun and maybe kinda pretty? Did your publisher take a little workshop on Japanese stab binding and decide to do a small print run with it? On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 5:17 PM Erin Fae <erinfae@gmail.com> wrote: > If the person who made it calls it a zine, then i would consider it a zine > > Sent using mobile technology and composed with thumbs > > > On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 5:18 PM Lisa Gardinier <lbgardinier@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Agreed with Julie and Deborah. Zine-adjacent, but definitely books. >> >> The University of Wisconsin has the largest collection, mostly in their >> special collections: >> https://researchguides.library.wisc.edu/cartoneras/cartonerasUW Scroll >> down and you'll see a link for *Akademia Cartonera*, an edited volume >> (open access) about the format. >> >> At Iowa, we split ours between Special Collections (if it's not yet in >> another library's special collections or if the author has an affiliation >> to our university) and circulating Stacks. The circulating cartonera are >> protected by a mylar cover, but otherwise no other intervention. The >> University of Wisconsin has the largest collection, mostly in their special >> collections: >> https://search.lib.uiowa.edu/primo-explore/search?query=any,contains,cartonera&tab=default_tab&search_scope=library_catalogs&vid=01IOWA&offset=0 >> >> Lisa >> -- >> Lisa Gardinier >> lbgardinier@gmail.com >> >> work: >> Curator, International Literature >> University of Iowa Libraries >> lisa-gardinier@uiowa.edu >> >> On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 3:45 PM Barbara Brownell (SAPL) < >> Barbara.Brownell@sanantonio.gov> wrote: >> >>> Thanks, Julie. I’ll check it out >>> >>> >>> >>> Barbara Brownell >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Grob, Julie <jgrob@uh.edu> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:37 PM >>> *To:* Barbara Brownell (SAPL) <Barbara.Brownell@sanantonio.gov>; >>> zinelibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >>> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] RE: Is this a zine? >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Barbara, >>> >>> >>> >>> We think of a cartonera as fitting under the format of “artist’s book” >>> here at UH. You might look for some guidance on cataloging artists’ books. >>> >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Julie >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: University of Houston logo] >>> >>> Julie Grob (she/her) >>> Coordinator for Instruction, Special Collections | Curator for Houston >>> Hip Hop Research Collection >>> Curator for Rare Books Collections >>> UH Libraries >>> University of Houston >>> Office (713) 743-9744 >>> jgrob@uh.edu >>> https://uh.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information in this email may be >>> confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, then >>> any review, dissemination, or copying of this email and its attachments, if >>> any, or the information contained herein is prohibited. If you have >>> received this email in error, then please immediately notify the sender by >>> return email and delete this email from your devices. >>> >>> >>> >>> *Know someone in UH Libraries that deserves some **Kudos? Share kudos* >>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/uhlibrary.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_3aE0rjOys70VFtk__;!!LkSTlj0I!CjkWXcDFhumW70hU7MXxb81wCQmgzbMNC0_mNpWHctzXTLM1RKhQoQS4boeKVF5A7WdY-W_IqZAGUKV8M4EgMXw$>* >>> to help us celebrate their great work!* >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* ZineLibrarians <zinelibrarians-bounces@lists.zinelibraries.info> >>> *On Behalf Of *Barbara Brownell (SAPL) >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 1, 2025 3:31 PM >>> *To:* zinelibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >>> *Subject:* [Zine Librarians] Is this a zine? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Good afternoon, >>> >>> >>> >>> I have on my desk to catalog, a Cartonera—basically a zine or short >>> booklet bound in a cardboard cover. Would I catalog it as a zine? The >>> person who donated it calls it a zine. I’ve never seen one, though it’s a >>> popular publishing movement in many countries. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have no problem with describing it as a zine, but I want to ask the >>> “collective wisdom”, as I don’t do many zines. BTW, we will be getting >>> more of them. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks and muchas gracias. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Barbara Brownell >>> >>> Catalog Librarian >>> >>> City of San Antonio, San Antonio Public Library >>> >>> 210-207-2524 >>> >>> >>> >>> ***THIS EMAIL IS FROM AN EXTERNAL SENDER OUTSIDE OF THE CITY.*** >>> >>> Be cautious before clicking links or opening attachments from unknown >>> sources. 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