DPLA Hub

AJ
Allison Jai O'Dell
Tue, Oct 13, 2015 2:51 AM

While we're on the subject of platforms...  I've been thinking some more
about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub.  (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or
content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public
Library of America.)  The more I think about it, the more it seems to make
sense for us.  Some reasons:

  • DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC.  They're all
    about openness, freedom, and collaboration.
  • DPLA is the platform.  We don't have to develop one.
  • But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to
    specific needs and/or collections.  The DPLA model, and its friendly API,
    encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information
    discovery, and also innovation.
  • The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing
    to the shared project.  For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida,
    can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing...  Thus, the
    project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app
    development.
  • DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on DC.
  • DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone.  It
    can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc.
  • DPLA has a wide and immediate audience.  We don't have to build one.
  • Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not.  We can
    create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content.
  • If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA.  We don't
    have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful.

Thoughts?

Allison

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman leslzine@gmail.com wrote:

Hi pals,

Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now
I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our
catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about.

Jenna

---------- Forwarded message ----------

We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those
function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would.  In those
cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage
individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data.  Those
back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and
configuration.  Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could
be daily) into a single aggregator system.  That pooled back-end fuels a
single front-end.  We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share
those in case they are helpful!

  1. We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality
    assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to
    flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard.
    This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from
    so many different cataloguers.

  2. Every difference between systems adds complexity.  In our case this
    wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but
    if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly
    become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to
    talk to another.  My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a
    common metadata schema.

  3. The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority
    reconciliation.  What happens if two people submit data about the same
    person on the same day?  Who's is kept?  Are they merged?  If merged, will
    the data be redundant?  Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule
    set, other times a human intelligence is required.

CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned
we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel.  But
configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so
we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route.

In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps,
or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want.  In either case
sounds like a great project!

Julia


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While we're on the subject of platforms... I've been thinking some more about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub. (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public Library of America.) The more I think about it, the more it seems to make sense for us. Some reasons: - DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC. They're all about openness, freedom, and collaboration. - DPLA is the platform. We don't have to develop one. - But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to specific needs and/or collections. The DPLA model, and its friendly API, encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information discovery, and also innovation. - The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing to the shared project. For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida, can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing... Thus, the project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app development. - DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on DC. - DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone. It can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc. - DPLA has a wide and immediate audience. We don't have to build one. - Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not. We can create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content. - If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA. *We* don't have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful. Thoughts? Allison On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi pals, > > Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now > I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our > catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about. > > Jenna > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those > function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would. In those > cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage > individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data. Those > back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and > configuration. Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could > be daily) into a single aggregator system. That pooled back-end fuels a > single front-end. We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share > those in case they are helpful! > > 1) We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality > assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to > flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard. > This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from > so many different cataloguers. > > 2) Every difference between systems adds complexity. In our case this > wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but > if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly > become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to > talk to another. My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a > common metadata schema. > > 3) The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority > reconciliation. What happens if two people submit data about the same > person on the same day? Who's is kept? Are they merged? If merged, will > the data be redundant? Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule > set, other times a human intelligence is required. > > CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned > we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel. But > configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so > we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route. > > In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps, > or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want. In either case > sounds like a great project! > > Julia > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing list > Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org > > _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org
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Elissah Becknell
Tue, Oct 13, 2015 3:02 PM

Hello Allison,

I like DPLA and I know the person in charge of the hub up here in Minnesota.  My only question about DPLA is the “Digital” part.  Many of the zine collections involved in this project are not digitized collections.  Many will never be digitized.

Would the Digital Public Library of American still be interested in helping us develop a database without fully digitized content?

If so, then I’m for it.

Elissah Becknell
Librarian & Instructor
Minneapolis Community & Technical College Library
1501 Hennepin Avenue/Minneapolis, MN 55403
612-200-5334
elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edumailto:elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edu

From: Zlunioncat [mailto:zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org] On Behalf Of Allison Jai O'Dell
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 9:51 PM
To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org
Subject: [Zlunioncat] DPLA Hub

While we're on the subject of platforms...  I've been thinking some more about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub.  (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public Library of America.)  The more I think about it, the more it seems to make sense for us.  Some reasons:

  • DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC.  They're all about openness, freedom, and collaboration.
  • DPLA is the platform.  We don't have to develop one.
  • But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to specific needs and/or collections.  The DPLA model, and its friendly API, encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information discovery, and also innovation.
  • The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing to the shared project.  For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida, can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing...  Thus, the project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app development.
  • DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on DC.
  • DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone.  It can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc.
  • DPLA has a wide and immediate audience.  We don't have to build one.
  • Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not.  We can create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content.
  • If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA.  We don't have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful.

Thoughts?

Allison

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.commailto:leslzine@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi pals,

Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about.

Jenna

---------- Forwarded message ----------

We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would.  In those cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data.  Those back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and configuration.  Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could be daily) into a single aggregator system.  That pooled back-end fuels a single front-end.  We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share those in case they are helpful!

  1. We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard.  This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from so many different cataloguers.

  2. Every difference between systems adds complexity.  In our case this wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to talk to another.  My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a common metadata schema.

  3. The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority reconciliation.  What happens if two people submit data about the same person on the same day?  Who's is kept?  Are they merged?  If merged, will the data be redundant?  Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule set, other times a human intelligence is required.

CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel.  But configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route.

In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps, or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want.  In either case sounds like a great project!

Julia


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Hello Allison, I like DPLA and I know the person in charge of the hub up here in Minnesota. My only question about DPLA is the “Digital” part. Many of the zine collections involved in this project are not digitized collections. Many will never be digitized. Would the Digital Public Library of American still be interested in helping us develop a database without fully digitized content? If so, then I’m for it. Elissah Becknell Librarian & Instructor Minneapolis Community & Technical College Library 1501 Hennepin Avenue/Minneapolis, MN 55403 612-200-5334 elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edu<mailto:elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edu> From: Zlunioncat [mailto:zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org] On Behalf Of Allison Jai O'Dell Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 9:51 PM To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org Subject: [Zlunioncat] DPLA Hub While we're on the subject of platforms... I've been thinking some more about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub. (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public Library of America.) The more I think about it, the more it seems to make sense for us. Some reasons: - DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC. They're all about openness, freedom, and collaboration. - DPLA is the platform. We don't have to develop one. - But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to specific needs and/or collections. The DPLA model, and its friendly API, encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information discovery, and also innovation. - The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing to the shared project. For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida, can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing... Thus, the project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app development. - DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on DC. - DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone. It can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc. - DPLA has a wide and immediate audience. We don't have to build one. - Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not. We can create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content. - If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA. *We* don't have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful. Thoughts? Allison On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com<mailto:leslzine@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi pals, Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about. Jenna ---------- Forwarded message ---------- We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would. In those cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data. Those back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and configuration. Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could be daily) into a single aggregator system. That pooled back-end fuels a single front-end. We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share those in case they are helpful! 1) We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard. This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from so many different cataloguers. 2) Every difference between systems adds complexity. In our case this wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to talk to another. My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a common metadata schema. 3) The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority reconciliation. What happens if two people submit data about the same person on the same day? Who's is kept? Are they merged? If merged, will the data be redundant? Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule set, other times a human intelligence is required. CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel. But configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route. In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps, or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want. In either case sounds like a great project! Julia _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org<mailto:Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org> http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org
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Allison Jai O'Dell
Tue, Oct 13, 2015 4:47 PM

My understanding is that DPLA will ingest "metadata only" about objects
that have not been digitized.

See: http://dp.la/info/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DPLAMetadataPolicy.pdf

You'll find examples if you start searching through DPLA.

Can't hurt to ask them, though!  Shall I do some info-gathering?

Allison

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Elissah Becknell <
Elissah.Becknell@minneapolis.edu> wrote:

Hello Allison,

I like DPLA and I know the person in charge of the hub up here in
Minnesota.  My only question about DPLA is the “Digital” part.  Many of the
zine collections involved in this project are not digitized collections.
Many will never be digitized.

Would the Digital Public Library of American still be interested in
helping us develop a database without fully digitized content?

If so, then I’m for it.

Elissah Becknell

Librarian & Instructor

Minneapolis Community & Technical College Library

1501 Hennepin Avenue/Minneapolis, MN 55403

612-200-5334

elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edu

From: Zlunioncat [mailto:zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org] *On Behalf
Of *Allison Jai O'Dell
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 9:51 PM
To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org
Subject: [Zlunioncat] DPLA Hub

While we're on the subject of platforms...  I've been thinking some more
about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub.  (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or
content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public
Library of America.)  The more I think about it, the more it seems to make
sense for us.  Some reasons:

  • DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC.  They're all
    about openness, freedom, and collaboration.

  • DPLA is the platform.  We don't have to develop one.

  • But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to
    specific needs and/or collections.  The DPLA model, and its friendly API,
    encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information
    discovery, and also innovation.

  • The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing
    to the shared project.  For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida,
    can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing...  Thus, the
    project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app
    development.

  • DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on DC.

  • DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone.  It
    can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc.

  • DPLA has a wide and immediate audience.  We don't have to build one.

  • Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not.  We can
    create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content.

  • If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA.  We don't
    have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful.

Thoughts?

Allison

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman leslzine@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi pals,

Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now
I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our
catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about.

Jenna

---------- Forwarded message ----------

We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those
function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would.  In those
cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage
individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data.  Those
back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and
configuration.  Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could
be daily) into a single aggregator system.  That pooled back-end fuels a
single front-end.  We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share
those in case they are helpful!

  1. We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality
    assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to
    flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard.
    This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from
    so many different cataloguers.

  2. Every difference between systems adds complexity.  In our case this
    wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but
    if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly
    become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to
    talk to another.  My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a
    common metadata schema.

  3. The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority
    reconciliation.  What happens if two people submit data about the same
    person on the same day?  Who's is kept?  Are they merged?  If merged, will
    the data be redundant?  Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule
    set, other times a human intelligence is required.

CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned
we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel.  But
configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so
we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route.

In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps,
or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want.  In either case
sounds like a great project!

Julia


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My understanding is that DPLA will ingest "metadata only" about objects that have not been digitized. See: http://dp.la/info/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DPLAMetadataPolicy.pdf You'll find examples if you start searching through DPLA. Can't hurt to ask them, though! Shall I do some info-gathering? Allison On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Elissah Becknell < Elissah.Becknell@minneapolis.edu> wrote: > Hello Allison, > > > > I like DPLA and I know the person in charge of the hub up here in > Minnesota. My only question about DPLA is the “Digital” part. Many of the > zine collections involved in this project are not digitized collections. > Many will never be digitized. > > > > Would the Digital Public Library of American still be interested in > helping us develop a database without fully digitized content? > > > > If so, then I’m for it. > > > > Elissah Becknell > > Librarian & Instructor > > Minneapolis Community & Technical College Library > > 1501 Hennepin Avenue/Minneapolis, MN 55403 > > 612-200-5334 > > elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edu > > > > *From:* Zlunioncat [mailto:zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org] *On Behalf > Of *Allison Jai O'Dell > *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 9:51 PM > *To:* zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > *Subject:* [Zlunioncat] DPLA Hub > > > > While we're on the subject of platforms... I've been thinking some more > about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub. (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or > content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public > Library of America.) The more I think about it, the more it seems to make > sense for us. Some reasons: > > > > - DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC. They're all > about openness, freedom, and collaboration. > > - DPLA is the platform. We don't have to develop one. > > - But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to > specific needs and/or collections. The DPLA model, and its friendly API, > encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information > discovery, and also innovation. > > - The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing > to the shared project. For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida, > can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing... Thus, the > project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app > development. > > - DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on DC. > > - DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone. It > can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc. > > - DPLA has a wide and immediate audience. We don't have to build one. > > - Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not. We can > create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content. > > - If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA. *We* don't > have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > Allison > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi pals, > > > > Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now > I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our > catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about. > > > > Jenna > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > > We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those > function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would. In those > cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage > individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data. Those > back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and > configuration. Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could > be daily) into a single aggregator system. That pooled back-end fuels a > single front-end. We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share > those in case they are helpful! > > > > 1) We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality > assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to > flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard. > This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from > so many different cataloguers. > > > > 2) Every difference between systems adds complexity. In our case this > wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but > if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly > become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to > talk to another. My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a > common metadata schema. > > > > 3) The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority > reconciliation. What happens if two people submit data about the same > person on the same day? Who's is kept? Are they merged? If merged, will > the data be redundant? Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule > set, other times a human intelligence is required. > > > > CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned > we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel. But > configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so > we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route. > > > > In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps, > or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want. In either case > sounds like a great project! > > > > Julia > > > _______________________________________________ > Zlunioncat mailing list > Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org > http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org > > > _______________________________________________ Zlunioncat mailing list Zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org http://lists.qzap.org/listinfo.cgi/zlunioncat-qzap.org
JF
jenna freedman
Tue, Oct 13, 2015 4:59 PM

Please do!

We have reached out to Mark Matienzo a couple of times with no response, so
maybe info-gather someone else?

Yay!

Jenna

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Allison Jai O'Dell ajodell@gmail.com
wrote:

My understanding is that DPLA will ingest "metadata only" about objects
that have not been digitized.

See: http://dp.la/info/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DPLAMetadataPolicy.pdf

You'll find examples if you start searching through DPLA.

Can't hurt to ask them, though!  Shall I do some info-gathering?

Allison

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Elissah Becknell <
Elissah.Becknell@minneapolis.edu> wrote:

Hello Allison,

I like DPLA and I know the person in charge of the hub up here in
Minnesota.  My only question about DPLA is the “Digital” part.  Many of the
zine collections involved in this project are not digitized collections.
Many will never be digitized.

Would the Digital Public Library of American still be interested in
helping us develop a database without fully digitized content?

If so, then I’m for it.

Elissah Becknell

Librarian & Instructor

Minneapolis Community & Technical College Library

1501 Hennepin Avenue/Minneapolis, MN 55403

612-200-5334

elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edu

From: Zlunioncat [mailto:zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org] *On Behalf
Of *Allison Jai O'Dell
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 9:51 PM
To: zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org
Subject: [Zlunioncat] DPLA Hub

While we're on the subject of platforms...  I've been thinking some more
about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub.  (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or
content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public
Library of America.)  The more I think about it, the more it seems to make
sense for us.  Some reasons:

  • DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC.  They're all
    about openness, freedom, and collaboration.

  • DPLA is the platform.  We don't have to develop one.

  • But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to
    specific needs and/or collections.  The DPLA model, and its friendly API,
    encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information
    discovery, and also innovation.

  • The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing
    to the shared project.  For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida,
    can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing...  Thus, the
    project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app
    development.

  • DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on
    DC.

  • DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone.  It
    can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc.

  • DPLA has a wide and immediate audience.  We don't have to build one.

  • Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not.  We
    can create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content.

  • If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA.  We don't
    have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful.

Thoughts?

Allison

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman leslzine@gmail.com
wrote:

Hi pals,

Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now
I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our
catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about.

Jenna

---------- Forwarded message ----------

We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those
function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would.  In those
cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage
individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data.  Those
back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and
configuration.  Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could
be daily) into a single aggregator system.  That pooled back-end fuels a
single front-end.  We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share
those in case they are helpful!

  1. We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality
    assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to
    flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard.
    This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from
    so many different cataloguers.

  2. Every difference between systems adds complexity.  In our case this
    wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but
    if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly
    become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to
    talk to another.  My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a
    common metadata schema.

  3. The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority
    reconciliation.  What happens if two people submit data about the same
    person on the same day?  Who's is kept?  Are they merged?  If merged, will
    the data be redundant?  Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule
    set, other times a human intelligence is required.

CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned
we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel.  But
configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so
we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route.

In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps,
or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want.  In either case
sounds like a great project!

Julia


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Please do! We have reached out to Mark Matienzo a couple of times with no response, so maybe info-gather someone else? Yay! Jenna On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Allison Jai O'Dell <ajodell@gmail.com> wrote: > My understanding is that DPLA will ingest "metadata only" about objects > that have not been digitized. > > See: http://dp.la/info/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/DPLAMetadataPolicy.pdf > > You'll find examples if you start searching through DPLA. > > Can't hurt to ask them, though! Shall I do some info-gathering? > > > Allison > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Elissah Becknell < > Elissah.Becknell@minneapolis.edu> wrote: > >> Hello Allison, >> >> >> >> I like DPLA and I know the person in charge of the hub up here in >> Minnesota. My only question about DPLA is the “Digital” part. Many of the >> zine collections involved in this project are not digitized collections. >> Many will never be digitized. >> >> >> >> Would the Digital Public Library of American still be interested in >> helping us develop a database without fully digitized content? >> >> >> >> If so, then I’m for it. >> >> >> >> Elissah Becknell >> >> Librarian & Instructor >> >> Minneapolis Community & Technical College Library >> >> 1501 Hennepin Avenue/Minneapolis, MN 55403 >> >> 612-200-5334 >> >> elissah.becknell@minneapolis.edu >> >> >> >> *From:* Zlunioncat [mailto:zlunioncat-bounces@lists.qzap.org] *On Behalf >> Of *Allison Jai O'Dell >> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 9:51 PM >> *To:* zlunioncat@lists.qzap.org >> *Subject:* [Zlunioncat] DPLA Hub >> >> >> >> While we're on the subject of platforms... I've been thinking some more >> about the idea of ZLUC = DPLA Hub. (DPLA Hubs aggregate metadata and/or >> content from their partners and contribute it to DPLA, the Digital Public >> Library of America.) The more I think about it, the more it seems to make >> sense for us. Some reasons: >> >> >> >> - DPLA is DPLA, not an individual institution, and not OCLC. They're all >> about openness, freedom, and collaboration. >> >> - DPLA is the platform. We don't have to develop one. >> >> - But we can develop apps, to create discovery interfaces tailored to >> specific needs and/or collections. The DPLA model, and its friendly API, >> encourages developers to create and share apps -- supporting information >> discovery, and also innovation. >> >> - The app approach lets individuals work individually, while contributing >> to the shared project. For instance, Allison, associated with U.Florida, >> can get a grant to develop an app that does some thing... Thus, the >> project team can remain loosely affiliated, while individuals take on app >> development. >> >> - DPLA likes ingesting Dublin Core metadata, and xZINECOREx is based on >> DC. >> >> - DPLA can handle both digitized content and metadata records alone. It >> can link out to information about holding institutions, their catalogs, etc. >> >> - DPLA has a wide and immediate audience. We don't have to build one. >> >> - Zines will be discoverable alongside other cool stuff -- or not. We >> can create apps and queries that target just the ZLUC content. >> >> - If the ZLUC project does tank, the data lives on in DPLA. *We* don't >> have to commit ourselves forever in order to do something meaningful. >> >> >> >> Thoughts? >> >> >> >> >> >> Allison >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:14 PM, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi pals, >> >> >> >> Julia Weist from Collective Access shared some thoughts with me, and now >> I'm sharing them with you. Note: I'm not saying we should use CA for our >> catalog, just that Julia gives us some things to think about. >> >> >> >> Jenna >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> >> >> We have some experience with consortium projects here at CA, and those >> function similarly to how a cooperative union catalog would. In those >> cases, we've had associations (comprised of several dozen museums) manage >> individual back-end systems where they separately enter their data. Those >> back-ends systems, though separate, are identical in terms of metadata and >> configuration. Each system sends data (through scheduled migrations--could >> be daily) into a single aggregator system. That pooled back-end fuels a >> single front-end. We've learned a few lessons with this, and I'll share >> those in case they are helpful! >> >> >> >> 1) We had to develop special tools which I'll call "metadata quality >> assessment rubrics" which use regular expression (/pattern matching) to >> flag data that was subpar based on the rules of a shared content standard. >> This helps your data look clean and consistent when it's being created from >> so many different cataloguers. >> >> >> >> 2) Every difference between systems adds complexity. In our case this >> wasn't a concern because we designed all the systems to be identical, but >> if you're working with various partners on various platforms it can quickly >> become a ton of crosswalking and custom sub-projects to get one system to >> talk to another. My advice would be to pick one shared platform and a >> common metadata schema. >> >> >> >> 3) The aggregation needs to be have built in rules to handle authority >> reconciliation. What happens if two people submit data about the same >> person on the same day? Who's is kept? Are they merged? If merged, will >> the data be redundant? Sometimes this can be entirely handled with a rule >> set, other times a human intelligence is required. >> >> >> >> CollectiveAccess could certainly work for this, because as I mentioned >> we've done it before so it wouldn't require reinventing the wheel. But >> configuration, build out, partner wrangling and support does take time, so >> we'd need funding if you wanted to go that route. >> >> >> >> In any case I'm happy to provide an opinion here and there if that helps, >> or to talk more seriously about using CA if you want. 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