JF
jenna freedman
Sun, Aug 23, 2015 12:15 AM
fyi -- such great potential for collaboration and advice!
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From: Andrea Huang (IIS) andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw
Date: Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: linked data union catalog
To: jenna freedman leslzine@gmail.com
Cc: Tyng-Ruey Chuang trc@iis.sinica.edu.tw, "Andrea Huang (Gmail)" <
andreasinica@gmail.com>
Dear Jenna,
Of course you are free to share my messages to your group, part of the LOD
spirit: sharing brings flourishing. :-)
Linked Jazz https://linkedjazz.org/ looks fairly enchanting ~ I also
found they collaborated with LODLAM 2011 from the Linked Jazz
https://linkedjazz.org/ website (the logo in the bottom). Tyng-Ruey might
met Cristina Pattuelli in this event ( just might, since years pass plus
too many topics and people in that event).
Keep us posted on your progress. And hope we will be all
linked semantically in the LOD cloud~
best wishes
andrea
Andrea Wei-Ching Huang
Institute of Information Science, Academia Sinica
128 Academia Road, Section 2, Nankang, Taipei 11529, Taiwan.
tel: +886-2-27883799 *1355
e-mail: andreaHG@iis.sinica.edu.tw andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw /
andreaSinica@gmail.com
p.s. Andrea uses [iis] and [gmail] only for mutual backup purposes.
On 21 August 2015 at 08:29, jenna freedman leslzine@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Andrea and hello Tyng-Ruey (if I may--please correct me if I'm being
disrespectful!),
Thank you again for sharing your experience. It is going to be
ridiculously useful to us. At the moment we're mostly working with
English-speaking libraries, mostly in the US, but I expect Canada and
Australia, as well. The ultimate goal would be to have buy-in from all the
libraries on the Barnard zine libraries list. Many of them are community
archives that do not share standards, and speaking of consistency, I who
have contributed about 4,000 AACR2R/RDA records to WorldCat have been
painfully inconsistent over the ten or so years I've been doing it (I
learned cataloging as I went).
I will check out *Linked Data for Libraries... *I assume the LOD and
metadata experts on my team are more informed about OCLC's LOD. I've poked
around at it a little, but am out of my depth. I'm also hoping to enlist
Cristina Pattuelli of Linked Jazz https://linkedjazz.org/ as an
advisor.
Is it okay if I share your email messages with folks in my group?
Gratefully, Jenna
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Andrea Huang (IIS) <
andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw> wrote:
dear jenna
We are "lucky" to tackle the data mainly in Chinese, and the
heterogeneity in the Union Catalog of Digital Archives Taiwan (ucDAT),
currently in XML and CSV. Plus, the metadata providers from 90 projects
have achieved certain levels of "community-consensus" on catalog structures
for the subject catalog, and DC 15 elements for descriptive catalog (the
project has been run for more than a decade).
Nevertheless, even with consistent metadata formats as well as using DC
representations in general, we are still facing the challenges of data
cleaning tasks when we want to bring ucDAT into the LOD level. The main
reason is the semantics of the data itself have been interpreted by
different people, time, and application contexts. For instance, DC 15
itself is too general, and often suffers from semantic confusions of
different metadata creators. And, this problem become even large when the
metadata itself is around 840000 within 14 domain knowledge. We are
working on this problem systematically and hope we can share this method
when we complete this research.
As for Zine libraries, are you dealing the problems of an union catalog
locally or globally (http://zines.barnard.edu/zine-libraries) ?
For a locally context, the book, Van Hooland, Seth, and Ruben Verborgh. Linked
Data for Libraries, Archives and Museums: How to clean, link and publish
your metadata. Facet, 2014. (
http://www.facetpublishing.co.uk/title.php?id=049641#.VdVGAPmqpBc) is
highly recommended.
For a globally context, you may like to take a look at OLCL's LOD
experience at http://www.oclc.org/data.en.html and WorldCat for catalog (
http://www.oclc.org/knowledge-base.en.html).
Btw, concerning your project is community based, if I
understand correctly, and hope you won't mind, I also cc Tyng-Ruey Chuang
(trc), my instructor. We have been worked on this issues together several
years, and he also has real experiences on community participation (andrea
on this subject is only theoretical basis, ^-^) and trc is also an expert
on data license issues. (He may not be able to participate our
communication these days, since he is on his vacation. :-))
best wishes
andrea
Andrea Wei-Ching Huang
Institute of Information Science, Academia Sinica
128 Academia Road, Section 2, Nankang, Taipei 11529, Taiwan.
tel: +886-2-27883799 *1355
e-mail: andreaHG@iis.sinica.edu.tw andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw /
andreaSinica@gmail.com
p.s. Andrea uses [iis] and [gmail] only for mutual backup purposes.
On 19 August 2015 at 06:15, jenna freedman leslzine@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for your generous response! I'm glad to be LOD union catalog
friends. :)
Please keep me posted how things go in the data cleaning phase.
Our data will be crazy disparate, pulling from AACR2/RDA, xZINECOREx
(metadata schema), csv, LibraryThing, archival finding aids, and standalone
databases.
Zine libraries also have diverse thesauri (and no thesaurus) and little
name authority.
Are you dealing with similar issues? Are you working with multiple
languages?
Jenna
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Andrea Huang (IIS) <
andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw> wrote:
Dear Jenna,
So glad to hear my slides help! Friends who are working with similar
projects are even better!
Currently, we are in the process of data cleaning, the preparing phase
of publishing our cc licensed metadata to LOD cloud. Look forward to more
discussions in the near future ~
best wishes
andrea
Andrea Wei-Ching Huang
Institute of Information Science, Academia Sinica
128 Academia Road, Section 2, Nankang, Taipei 11529, Taiwan.
tel: +886-2-27883799 *1355
e-mail: andreaHG@iis.sinica.edu.tw andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw /
andreaSinica@gmail.com
p.s. Andrea uses [iis] and [gmail] only for mutual backup purposes.
On 17 August 2015 at 06:40, jenna freedman leslzine@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Andrea,
Thanks for being willing to email about the Union Catalog of Digital
Archives Taiwan. As I said on Twitter, I found your slides while looking to
see what projects might be similar to one I'm working on: a linked open
data union catalog for zines.
I don't have any intelligent questions to ask you yet. I just wanted
to ping you and tell you I appreciate your slides and that I may want to
talk more later--or more likely one of our developers or LOD specialists
might.
With warmth, Jenna
--
http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info
http://zines.barnard.edu
http://leslzine.storenvy.com
fyi -- such great potential for collaboration and advice!
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andrea Huang (IIS) <andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw>
Date: Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: linked data union catalog
To: jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com>
Cc: Tyng-Ruey Chuang <trc@iis.sinica.edu.tw>, "Andrea Huang (Gmail)" <
andreasinica@gmail.com>
Dear Jenna,
Of course you are free to share my messages to your group, part of the LOD
spirit: sharing brings flourishing. :-)
Linked Jazz <https://linkedjazz.org/> looks fairly enchanting ~ I also
found they collaborated with LODLAM 2011 from the Linked Jazz
<https://linkedjazz.org/> website (the logo in the bottom). Tyng-Ruey might
met Cristina Pattuelli in this event ( just might, since years pass plus
too many topics and people in that event).
Keep us posted on your progress. And hope we will be all
linked semantically in the LOD cloud~
best wishes
andrea
Andrea Wei-Ching Huang
Institute of Information Science, Academia Sinica
128 Academia Road, Section 2, Nankang, Taipei 11529, Taiwan.
tel: +886-2-27883799 *1355
e-mail: andreaHG@iis.sinica.edu.tw <andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw> /
andreaSinica@gmail.com
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p.s. Andrea uses [iis] and [gmail] only for mutual backup purposes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
On 21 August 2015 at 08:29, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Andrea and hello Tyng-Ruey (if I may--please correct me if I'm being
> disrespectful!),
>
> Thank you again for sharing your experience. It is going to be
> ridiculously useful to us. At the moment we're mostly working with
> English-speaking libraries, mostly in the US, but I expect Canada and
> Australia, as well. The ultimate goal would be to have buy-in from all the
> libraries on the Barnard zine libraries list. Many of them are community
> archives that do not share standards, and speaking of consistency, I who
> have contributed about 4,000 AACR2R/RDA records to WorldCat have been
> painfully inconsistent over the ten or so years I've been doing it (I
> learned cataloging as I went).
>
> I will check out *Linked Data for Libraries... *I assume the LOD and
> metadata experts on my team are more informed about OCLC's LOD. I've poked
> around at it a little, but am out of my depth. I'm also hoping to enlist
> Cristina Pattuelli of Linked Jazz <https://linkedjazz.org/> as an
> advisor.
>
> Is it okay if I share your email messages with folks in my group?
>
> Gratefully, Jenna
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Andrea Huang (IIS) <
> andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw> wrote:
>
>> dear jenna
>>
>> We are "lucky" to tackle the data mainly in Chinese, and the
>> heterogeneity in the Union Catalog of Digital Archives Taiwan (ucDAT),
>> currently in XML and CSV. Plus, the metadata providers from 90 projects
>> have achieved certain levels of "community-consensus" on catalog structures
>> for the subject catalog, and DC 15 elements for descriptive catalog (the
>> project has been run for more than a decade).
>>
>> Nevertheless, even with consistent metadata formats as well as using DC
>> representations in general, we are still facing the challenges of data
>> cleaning tasks when we want to bring ucDAT into the LOD level. The main
>> reason is the semantics of the data itself have been interpreted by
>> different people, time, and application contexts. For instance, DC 15
>> itself is too general, and often suffers from semantic confusions of
>> different metadata creators. And, this problem become even large when the
>> metadata itself is around 840000 within 14 domain knowledge. We are
>> working on this problem systematically and hope we can share this method
>> when we complete this research.
>>
>> As for Zine libraries, are you dealing the problems of an union catalog
>> locally or globally (http://zines.barnard.edu/zine-libraries) ?
>>
>> For a locally context, the book, Van Hooland, Seth, and Ruben Verborgh. *Linked
>> Data for Libraries, Archives and Museums: How to clean, link and publish
>> your metadata*. Facet, 2014. (
>> http://www.facetpublishing.co.uk/title.php?id=049641#.VdVGAPmqpBc) is
>> highly recommended.
>>
>> For a globally context, you may like to take a look at OLCL's LOD
>> experience at http://www.oclc.org/data.en.html and WorldCat for catalog (
>> http://www.oclc.org/knowledge-base.en.html).
>>
>> Btw, concerning your project is community based, if I
>> understand correctly, and hope you won't mind, I also cc Tyng-Ruey Chuang
>> (trc), my instructor. We have been worked on this issues together several
>> years, and he also has real experiences on community participation (andrea
>> on this subject is only theoretical basis, ^-^) and trc is also an expert
>> on data license issues. (He may not be able to participate our
>> communication these days, since he is on his vacation. :-))
>>
>> best wishes
>> andrea
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrea Wei-Ching Huang
>>
>> Institute of Information Science, Academia Sinica
>>
>> 128 Academia Road, Section 2, Nankang, Taipei 11529, Taiwan.
>>
>> tel: +886-2-27883799 *1355
>>
>> e-mail: andreaHG@iis.sinica.edu.tw <andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw> /
>> andreaSinica@gmail.com
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> p.s. Andrea uses [iis] and [gmail] only for mutual backup purposes.
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> On 19 August 2015 at 06:15, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for your generous response! I'm glad to be LOD union catalog
>>> friends. :)
>>>
>>> Please keep me posted how things go in the data cleaning phase.
>>>
>>> Our data will be crazy disparate, pulling from AACR2/RDA, xZINECOREx
>>> (metadata schema), csv, LibraryThing, archival finding aids, and standalone
>>> databases.
>>>
>>> Zine libraries also have diverse thesauri (and no thesaurus) and little
>>> name authority.
>>>
>>> Are you dealing with similar issues? Are you working with multiple
>>> languages?
>>>
>>> Jenna
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Andrea Huang (IIS) <
>>> andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Jenna,
>>>>
>>>> So glad to hear my slides help! Friends who are working with similar
>>>> projects are even better!
>>>> Currently, we are in the process of data cleaning, the preparing phase
>>>> of publishing our cc licensed metadata to LOD cloud. Look forward to more
>>>> discussions in the near future ~
>>>>
>>>> best wishes
>>>> andrea
>>>>
>>>> Andrea Wei-Ching Huang
>>>>
>>>> Institute of Information Science, Academia Sinica
>>>>
>>>> 128 Academia Road, Section 2, Nankang, Taipei 11529, Taiwan.
>>>>
>>>> tel: +886-2-27883799 *1355
>>>>
>>>> e-mail: andreaHG@iis.sinica.edu.tw <andreahg@iis.sinica.edu.tw> /
>>>> andreaSinica@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> p.s. Andrea uses [iis] and [gmail] only for mutual backup purposes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> On 17 August 2015 at 06:40, jenna freedman <leslzine@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Andrea,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for being willing to email about the Union Catalog of Digital
>>>>> Archives Taiwan. As I said on Twitter, I found your slides while looking to
>>>>> see what projects might be similar to one I'm working on: a linked open
>>>>> data union catalog for zines.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have any intelligent questions to ask you yet. I just wanted
>>>>> to ping you and tell you I appreciate your slides and that I may want to
>>>>> talk more later--or more likely one of our developers or LOD specialists
>>>>> might.
>>>>>
>>>>> With warmth, Jenna
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info
>>>>> http://zines.barnard.edu
>>>>> http://leslzine.storenvy.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info
>>> http://zines.barnard.edu
>>> http://leslzine.storenvy.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> http://lowereastsidelibrarian.info
> http://zines.barnard.edu
> http://leslzine.storenvy.com
>
--
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http://zines.barnard.edu
http://leslzine.storenvy.com
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