[Zine Librarians] Zine censorship

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Nyxia Grey
Sat, Apr 20, 2024 5:05 PM

Hello friends!

A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge in
a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to
have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states
target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next
'hot ticket item' to come after.

Thank you all in advance!

--
You Matter. Always.

Nyxia (hear my name https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey)

https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura

There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a few
breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons,
succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful
presence for change.

In memory of Elise Rogers


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Hello friends! A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge in a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next 'hot ticket item' to come after. Thank you all in advance! -- You Matter. Always. Nyxia (hear my name <https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey>) https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura *There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a few breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons, succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful presence for change.* In memory of Elise Rogers _______________________________________________ ZineLibrarians mailing list ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info
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Abigail Phillips
Sun, Apr 21, 2024 9:06 PM

I'm really curious about hearing if there has been anything. I haven't
heard of a zine specific challenge, but I would be interested to know if
it has happened.

Thank you! Take care!

Abigail L. Phillips, MLIS, SLIS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Information Studies
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Twitter/Bluesky: @abigailleigh
Website: abigailleighphillips.com
Pronouns: She/Her

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:19 PM Nyxia Grey everythingisfinezine@gmail.com
wrote:

Hello friends!

A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge
in a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to
have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states
target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next
'hot ticket item' to come after.

Thank you all in advance!

--
You Matter. Always.

Nyxia (hear my name https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey)

https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura

There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a
few breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons,
succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful
presence for change.

In memory of Elise Rogers


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I'm really curious about hearing if there has been anything. I haven't heard of a zine specific challenge, but I would be interested to know if it has happened. Thank you! Take care! Abigail L. Phillips, MLIS, SLIS, PhD Assistant Professor School of Information Studies University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Twitter/Bluesky: @abigailleigh Website: abigailleighphillips.com Pronouns: She/Her On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:19 PM Nyxia Grey <everythingisfinezine@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello friends! > > A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge > in a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to > have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states > target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next > 'hot ticket item' to come after. > > Thank you all in advance! > > -- > You Matter. Always. > > Nyxia (hear my name <https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey>) > > https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura > > *There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a > few breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons, > succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful > presence for change.* > > > In memory of Elise Rogers > _______________________________________________ > ZineLibrarians mailing list > ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info > > http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info > _______________________________________________ ZineLibrarians mailing list ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info
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Violet
Mon, Apr 22, 2024 2:39 AM

It's a great question, thanks for asking!

The only zine-related kerfuffle I can think of was at the Glasgow Women's
Library in Scotland:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-attacks-feminist-library-for-shaming-lesbians-md2cv3783;
alternate news option if you're paywalled:
https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/jk-rowling-lashes-out-at-a-feminist-library-over-trans-zine-celebrating-the-death-of-lesbians.
I don't think the library ever actually considered removing it.

I suspect that because zines are considered a "nice to have" but not an
integral part of the collection of public libraries, that we'll rarely hear
about zine challenges. Either because it will silently get removed by
fearful admins, or more likely, because of silent censorship, meaning that
libraries won't collect them in the first place if they're worried about
pushback. If librarians are reluctant to go to bat to protect traditionally
published books, they're certainly not going to do so for a Xeroxed 12-page
zine.

Violet

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 4:09 PM Abigail Phillips <
abigail.leighphillips@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm really curious about hearing if there has been anything. I haven't
heard of a zine specific challenge, but I would be interested to know if
it has happened.

Thank you! Take care!

Abigail L. Phillips, MLIS, SLIS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Information Studies
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Twitter/Bluesky: @abigailleigh
Website: abigailleighphillips.com
Pronouns: She/Her

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:19 PM Nyxia Grey <
everythingisfinezine@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello friends!

A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge
in a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to
have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states
target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next
'hot ticket item' to come after.

Thank you all in advance!

--
You Matter. Always.

Nyxia (hear my name https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey)

https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura

There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a
few breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons,
succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful
presence for change.

In memory of Elise Rogers


ZineLibrarians mailing list
ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info

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It's a great question, thanks for asking! The only zine-related kerfuffle I can think of was at the Glasgow Women's Library in Scotland: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-attacks-feminist-library-for-shaming-lesbians-md2cv3783; alternate news option if you're paywalled: https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/jk-rowling-lashes-out-at-a-feminist-library-over-trans-zine-celebrating-the-death-of-lesbians. I don't think the library ever actually considered removing it. I suspect that because zines are considered a "nice to have" but not an integral part of the collection of public libraries, that we'll rarely hear about zine challenges. Either because it will silently get removed by fearful admins, or more likely, because of silent censorship, meaning that libraries won't collect them in the first place if they're worried about pushback. If librarians are reluctant to go to bat to protect traditionally published books, they're certainly not going to do so for a Xeroxed 12-page zine. Violet On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 4:09 PM Abigail Phillips < abigail.leighphillips@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm really curious about hearing if there has been anything. I haven't > heard of a zine specific challenge, but I would be interested to know if > it has happened. > > Thank you! Take care! > > Abigail L. Phillips, MLIS, SLIS, PhD > Assistant Professor > School of Information Studies > University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee > Twitter/Bluesky: @abigailleigh > Website: abigailleighphillips.com > Pronouns: She/Her > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:19 PM Nyxia Grey < > everythingisfinezine@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hello friends! >> >> A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge >> in a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to >> have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states >> target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next >> 'hot ticket item' to come after. >> >> Thank you all in advance! >> >> -- >> You Matter. Always. >> >> Nyxia (hear my name <https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey>) >> >> https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura >> >> *There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a >> few breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons, >> succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful >> presence for change.* >> >> >> In memory of Elise Rogers >> _______________________________________________ >> ZineLibrarians mailing list >> ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >> >> http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info >> > _______________________________________________ > ZineLibrarians mailing list > ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info > > http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info > _______________________________________________ ZineLibrarians mailing list ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info
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Jenna Freedman
Thu, Apr 25, 2024 8:04 PM

I haven't had an external challenge, but I've had one or two from staff.

I hope zine libraries don't come under attack, but it wouldn't surprise me,
unfortunately.

The collection at the Baltimore County/Stuckeyville PL (?) was dismantled.
I believe they said they based the decision on circulation numbers. And a
school library collection was challenged, I believe by a parent? and
discontinued. 😿

Jenna

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 10:40 PM Violet violetfox@gmail.com wrote:

It's a great question, thanks for asking!

The only zine-related kerfuffle I can think of was at the Glasgow Women's
Library in Scotland:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-attacks-feminist-library-for-shaming-lesbians-md2cv3783;
alternate news option if you're paywalled:
https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/jk-rowling-lashes-out-at-a-feminist-library-over-trans-zine-celebrating-the-death-of-lesbians.
I don't think the library ever actually considered removing it.

I suspect that because zines are considered a "nice to have" but not an
integral part of the collection of public libraries, that we'll rarely hear
about zine challenges. Either because it will silently get removed by
fearful admins, or more likely, because of silent censorship, meaning that
libraries won't collect them in the first place if they're worried about
pushback. If librarians are reluctant to go to bat to protect traditionally
published books, they're certainly not going to do so for a Xeroxed 12-page
zine.

Violet

On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 4:09 PM Abigail Phillips <
abigail.leighphillips@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm really curious about hearing if there has been anything. I haven't
heard of a zine specific challenge, but I would be interested to know if
it has happened.

Thank you! Take care!

Abigail L. Phillips, MLIS, SLIS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Information Studies
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Twitter/Bluesky: @abigailleigh
Website: abigailleighphillips.com
Pronouns: She/Her

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:19 PM Nyxia Grey <
everythingisfinezine@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello friends!

A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge
in a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to
have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states
target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next
'hot ticket item' to come after.

Thank you all in advance!

--
You Matter. Always.

Nyxia (hear my name https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey)

https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura

There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a
few breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons,
succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful
presence for change.

In memory of Elise Rogers


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I haven't had an external challenge, but I've had one or two from staff. I hope zine libraries don't come under attack, but it wouldn't surprise me, unfortunately. The collection at the Baltimore County/Stuckeyville PL (?) was dismantled. I believe they said they based the decision on circulation numbers. And a school library collection was challenged, I believe by a parent? and discontinued. 😿 Jenna On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 10:40 PM Violet <violetfox@gmail.com> wrote: > It's a great question, thanks for asking! > > The only zine-related kerfuffle I can think of was at the Glasgow Women's > Library in Scotland: > https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/jk-rowling-attacks-feminist-library-for-shaming-lesbians-md2cv3783; > alternate news option if you're paywalled: > https://www.gbnews.com/celebrity/jk-rowling-lashes-out-at-a-feminist-library-over-trans-zine-celebrating-the-death-of-lesbians. > I don't think the library ever actually considered removing it. > > I suspect that because zines are considered a "nice to have" but not an > integral part of the collection of public libraries, that we'll rarely hear > about zine challenges. Either because it will silently get removed by > fearful admins, or more likely, because of silent censorship, meaning that > libraries won't collect them in the first place if they're worried about > pushback. If librarians are reluctant to go to bat to protect traditionally > published books, they're certainly not going to do so for a Xeroxed 12-page > zine. > > Violet > > On Sun, Apr 21, 2024 at 4:09 PM Abigail Phillips < > abigail.leighphillips@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm really curious about hearing if there has been anything. I haven't >> heard of a zine specific challenge, but I would be interested to know if >> it has happened. >> >> Thank you! Take care! >> >> Abigail L. Phillips, MLIS, SLIS, PhD >> Assistant Professor >> School of Information Studies >> University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee >> Twitter/Bluesky: @abigailleigh >> Website: abigailleighphillips.com >> Pronouns: She/Her >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:19 PM Nyxia Grey < >> everythingisfinezine@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hello friends! >>> >>> A student at my university asked if there has ever been a book challenge >>> in a public library against a zine? And has there ever been a challenge to >>> have a zine collection removed from a public library? As more red states >>> target libraries, she is wondering if zine collections will be the next >>> 'hot ticket item' to come after. >>> >>> Thank you all in advance! >>> >>> -- >>> You Matter. Always. >>> >>> Nyxia (hear my name <https://namedrop.io/nyxiagrey>) >>> >>> https://linktr.ee/dawnstahura >>> >>> *There is so much love and loss in the world and I would like to take a >>> few breaths to acknowledge all the folx who, for known and unknown reasons, >>> succumbed to suicide. May their painful absence in our lives be a powerful >>> presence for change.* >>> >>> >>> In memory of Elise Rogers >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ZineLibrarians mailing list >>> ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >>> >>> http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> ZineLibrarians mailing list >> ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info >> >> http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info >> > _______________________________________________ > ZineLibrarians mailing list > ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info > > http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info > -- Jenna Freedman | she, her Director of the Barnard Zine Library make an appointment <https://barnard.libcal.com/appointments/jenna-freedman> | https://is.gd/jennacalendar https://linktr.ee/barnardzinelibrary Fridays are dedicated cataloging days. I will respond to messages I receive on Fridays the following week. _______________________________________________ ZineLibrarians mailing list ZineLibrarians@lists.zinelibraries.info http://lists.zinelibraries.info/listinfo.cgi/zinelibrarians-zinelibraries.info